A conversation between Ed Kashi, Jon Gomez, Juliet Horton, and Samer Fouad whose art is a response to immigrant detention in the Newark region and on display at Project for Empty Space in conjunction with the States of Incarceration exhibition. Kashi's life-sized portraits feature former detainees who firmly stand their ground even while their physical settings seem to be receding from them, as though they are there and not there, at home and adrift, uncertain of their place in America. Gomez's multi-channel work explores the risks people are willing to undertake to immigrate to the United States, and poses the questions: "Is it worth it?" and "What is the American Dream?" Similarly, Fouad's large-scale collage panels which feature comparative and parallel narratives of the American Japanese internment camps of the 1940s and the anti-Arab and anti-Muslim rhetoric of today, also dissects the legacy of how American treats its immigrant communities. Juliet Horton, a former detainee, exhibits a series of drawings she completed while incarcerated at the Hudson County Jail and Hartford Correctional Center. Her work depicts the need for detainees to re-define themselves as mothers in a system that disconnects them from their families.